262- In the Same Ballpark

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In 1992, the Baltimore Orioles opened a new stadium called Oriole Park at Camden Yards. It was designed to look like the classic ballparks from the early 1900s, with brick and iron trusses. This was a big change from the large, concrete "multipurpose" stadiums that had become common in the 1960s and 70s. Camden Yards was an immediate hit with fans and ignited a wave of new retro-style ballparks across the country. The success was driven by a desire to move stadiums back into city centers and recreate the intimacy of the old ballparks. The ballpark was designed by Janet Marie Smith and Larry Lucchino. They took inspiration from historic parks like Wrigley Field and Fenway Park. A key decision was preserving the B&O warehouse beyond right field, which shaped the asymmetrical playing field. In the 25 years since Camden Yards opened, nearly every new ballpark has copied its style. They're designed by the same firm and have retro styling, but lack the authentic connection to the surrounding city. Still, the new ballparks are better for watching baseball than the concrete multipurpose stadiums they replaced. Camden Yards made baseball stadiums catalysts for urban revitalization. But their economic benefits are debated, since they require public funding but benefit private owners. Regardless, Camden Yards created a new ballpark orthodoxy that still dominates new construction.

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In the 1992, the Baltimore Orioles opened their baseball season at a brand new stadium called Oriole Park at Camden Yards, right along the downtown harbor. The stadium was small and intimate, built with brick and iron trusses—a throwback to … Continue ...

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Go to bombas.com slash 99pi and use code 99pi for 20% off your first purchase. That's Bombas. B-O-M-B-A-S dot com slash 99pi. Code 99pi. This is 99% Invisible. I'm Roman Mars. In the spring of 1992, the Baltimore Orioles opened their baseball season at a brand new stadium called Oriole Park at Camden Yards. It sat right along the harbor in downtown Baltimore. The Baltimore Orioles pulled out all of the stops for opening day at brand new Camden Yards, an old-time ballpark in the heart of downtown. SPEAKER_09: The stadium was small and intimate. It was built with brick and iron trusses, a throwback to the classic ballparks from the early 20th century. But on this day, it was the future, not the past, that was on the minds of Oriole fans as they plucked the Camden Yards in what was the first of 67 setbacks, 59 of them in a row. SPEAKER_09: Camden Yards was really popular right from the start. Here's a TV reporter interviewing a bunch of Orioles fans on opening day. Outstanding. Outstanding day for baseball, outstanding park, and outstanding year for the Orioles. SPEAKER_00: Incredible. It's just unbelievable here. Beautiful. SPEAKER_03: Baseball writers from around the country heaped praise on the Orioles' new park. That's producer Emmett Fitzgerald. SPEAKER_09: Tim Kirchhen wrote in Sports Illustrated, it's magnificent in an understated, baseball-only, real grass, open air, quirky, cozy, comfortable, cool sort of a way. SPEAKER_03: All the national attention took the team by surprise. SPEAKER_06: We were just out to build a ballpark that worked for Baltimore, this blue collar city, home of Crab Cakes, Nettie Bowe, and Boogs Barbecue. This is Janet Marie Smith, one of the designers of Camden Yards. SPEAKER_03: You know, we weren't looking to create something that would change the paradigm of baseball parks. SPEAKER_09: But that's exactly what happened. The success of Camden Yards set off a building boom in baseball as city after city built new stadiums based on the architectural principles laid down in Baltimore. That design revolution changed the experience of going to the ballpark and the relationship between baseball and cities. SPEAKER_03: But to understand what made Camden Yards feel so special in 1992, we need a little bit of history. In the early 1900s, most baseball stadiums were relatively small and built in dense urban neighborhoods. SPEAKER_09: But in the 1950s and 60s, as white populations fled downtown for the suburbs, baseball followed them. Teams built stadiums on the edge of cities where they would be more accessible to middle-class fans who drove to games in cars. They often were acres and acres of parking surrounding the stadium. SPEAKER_03: And the stadiums themselves were these massive concrete cylinders designed to house more than one sport. From Pittsburgh to Atlanta to Milwaukee, everyone had this big round hulking concrete stadium that generally housed both baseball and football. SPEAKER_06: But these multipurpose stadiums, or concrete donuts as they were sometimes called, really weren't great for fans of either sport. SPEAKER_09: The sort of joke was they became multipurpose-less. SPEAKER_09: They were perfectly round to fit both a football field and a baseball diamond. But that meant that the seats were often really far away from the action or angled in weird directions. So it ended up being a shape that accommodated everything but served nothing well. SPEAKER_06: And the multipurpose stadiums were just way too big for baseball. SPEAKER_03: The old urban ballparks had about 25 or 30,000 seats. But these had 50,000 or more. SPEAKER_06: It just didn't work, you know, except for a playoff game, you simply weren't selling that many tickets. SPEAKER_03: So the stadiums often felt empty. And critics also complained that they all looked exactly the same. They were not distinctive enough. You didn't know if you were in Three Rivers Stadium or you were in Riverfront Stadium or you were in Veterans Stadium. SPEAKER_04: You really didn't know what city you were in or could be in. This is Larry Lucchino. SPEAKER_03: He was the president of the Orioles in the late 80s and early 90s. And during that time, the Orioles played in their own concrete donut, Memorial Stadium, which had once housed Baltimore's football team, the Colts. SPEAKER_09: But in 1984, the Colts abandoned the city for Indianapolis. SPEAKER_00: A long, agonizing, frustrating two and a half months of waiting and wondering if the Baltimore Colts would be leaving town for good. It has happened. The shock is setting in. Emotions are running high. And the Colts cited the inadequacy of aging Memorial Stadium as a reason for leaving. SPEAKER_04: So there was a concern that unless something creative was done in Baltimore for the Orioles, that we might follow the example of the Colts and leave town for greener ballparks, if you will. SPEAKER_03: The team's owner, Edward Bennett Williams, wanted to build a nice new multi-purpose stadium so that the city could try and court another football team back to Baltimore. SPEAKER_09: But Larry Lucchino had a different idea. He went to Edward Williams and said to him, let's look at the most successful baseball franchises out there. SPEAKER_04: The Yankees in Yankee Stadium, the Cubs in Wrigley Field, the Red Sox in Fenway Park. And what did they have in common? They all played in a baseball only facility, a facility that was designed for baseball and that did not compromise architecturally for other sports. Those stadiums actually had another thing in common. SPEAKER_03: They were really old. Some of the last holdouts from the pre-war era of urban ballpark baseball. And unlike the concrete donuts, the ballparks built back then had all these architectural quirks. SPEAKER_09: Fenway's Green Monster or Wrigley Field's iconic brick walls covered in ivy. They were all a little bit of a different flavor of ice cream. SPEAKER_04: We thought that something was lost when baseball moved from those kinds of facilities to generic multipurpose stadiums in the 60s and 70s. Lucchino wanted to break out of the multipurpose paradigm and build a new kind of baseball only stadium, one that felt old. SPEAKER_04: An old fashioned traditional baseball park with modern amenities. If we use that phrase once, we used it 10,000 times. In fact, Lucchino became so zealous in his commitment to building an old fashioned ballpark that he banned Orioles employees from even using the word stadium. SPEAKER_03: Indeed, we fined people $5 if they used the S word stadium instead of referring to our project as a ballpark. SPEAKER_04: A stadium connotes something very different in terms of size and monumentality. Did you ever collect on those fines? SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we did collect. We had a little party. I don't remember how much we got, but it wasn't insubstantial. SPEAKER_04: The Orioles struck a deal with the Maryland S word authority to build a new baseball only ballpark in Baltimore using mostly public money. SPEAKER_09: The city and state government saw it as part of an effort to revitalize downtown. The stadium authority hired the architecture firm HOK and the Orioles brought in their own design director, Janet Marie Smith. My assignment was really to take those words that he used over and over again of an old fashioned ballpark with modern amenities and try and make certain that we were really being true to that. SPEAKER_09: It wasn't an easy task. SPEAKER_06: No one else had moved into a center city and said, we want to be a part of that tapestry in golly, maybe 70 years. How are we going to create something that feels like it's woven into the city of Baltimore and like it's it's always belonged here? Janet Marie Smith turned to the ballparks from the early 1900s for inspiration. SPEAKER_06: What made those older ballparks special is that they were kind of wedged into a very tight urban environment. And by wedged, she means that the urban environment actually dictated the shape of the field. SPEAKER_03: Each ballpark had different dimensions depending on the plot of land on which it was built, which can only really happen in baseball. SPEAKER_09: With most sports, the dimensions of the playing field are totally standardized, but not baseball. The rules about the infield, they've got to be you know, you've got to have 90 feet between the bases, 60 feet, six inches from home plate to the pitcher's mound. SPEAKER_06: But there's no rule about the outfield. And so a lot of the early American ballparks were totally asymmetrical. Ebbets Field, built in a Brooklyn neighborhood called Pigtown, had a wildly irregular shape. SPEAKER_03: The left field foul pole was over 50 feet further from home plate than the right field foul pole. That variety means that some ballparks are better for pitchers, others are better for hitters. Some ballparks give up more home runs to right handed batters, others to lefties. SPEAKER_09: So the park itself really does shape the outcome of the game. SPEAKER_06: Larry Lucchino wanted an irregular playing field like those old time ballparks, but he felt that the shape needed to respond to the built environment around the site. SPEAKER_03: To make sure that this ballpark was integrated into its neighborhood and it didn't feel like flying saucer that descended and just landed in the neighborhood. SPEAKER_04: The inner harbor site where Camden Yards would be built had one distinct architectural feature, the B&O Warehouse, an extremely long brick building built at the turn of the 20th century. SPEAKER_03: It was abandoned at the time and a lot of people thought that the Orioles should just tear it down to give themselves more room to build on and to open up a view to the water. One sports editor wrote that it was an empty rat infested fire trap and it should be done away with. SPEAKER_03: But Janet Marie Smith didn't want to do that. We felt strongly that tearing down the very context that might give form to an asymmetrical playing field, an asymmetrical seating bowl, was running against the grain of what Larry wanted. SPEAKER_06: So they left the warehouse, which would eventually sit just beyond right field, and design the shape of the playing field around it. SPEAKER_03: In fact, Lucchino says that the decision to preserve the warehouse really dictated nearly every other design decision that went into Camden Yards, from the shape of the stands down to the materials that they used in construction. It gave us the sort of brick motif that we used in the ballpark and it gave us the iconic symbol of this ballpark for Baltimore and it looked a lot like Baltimore and felt a lot like Baltimore. SPEAKER_09: If you go to Camden Yards today, it's almost hard to tell where the stadium ends and the warehouse begins. SPEAKER_03: Larry Lucchino and Janet Marie Smith were both at Camden Yards on opening day. I can tell you that we were all anxious, you know, hair standing on our back. Like what if it, you know, what if it doesn't work? SPEAKER_06: I mean, there were any number of things that ran counter to the norm in sports stadium design that could have gone wrong and any number of things that were normal that could have just gone wrong. You know, the toilet's not flushing. I don't know. Pick anything. But nothing went wrong. The tickets sold out, the toilets flushed just fine, and the Orioles did their job on the field. SPEAKER_04: Janet and I found each other just as the game ended and embraced each other and I think she said, it plays, it plays. There was a big headline across the front page of the Baltimore Sun the day after opening day that said, it's a hit, you know, in big two and a half inch letters as if we'd won the election or something. SPEAKER_06: All that year, people kept coming out to the ballpark in droves. SPEAKER_09: When we opened in 1992, the attendance went from something like 2.2 or 2.3 million to 3.6 million. In the second year, it was 3.7 million. SPEAKER_04: In their first two seasons at Camden Yards, the Orioles had the second highest attendance in the major leagues. And pretty soon, other teams started to take notice. SPEAKER_03: Owners from Texas and from Cleveland and Colorado came to visit us rather extensively. SPEAKER_04: Then in 1994, another old-fashioned baseball-only ballpark called Jacobs Field opened in downtown Cleveland. And that was just the beginning. SPEAKER_08: It became impossible to build a new ballpark and not have it look like an old ballpark. SPEAKER_03: That's Mark Lampster, architecture critic at the Dallas Morning News and a fellow at the Harvard Graduate School of Design. In that way, I'd like to joke that baseball owners were a bit like teenagers. What the first cool one does, then all of a sudden everybody else does. SPEAKER_08: So if one person has a retro ballpark and it's successful, then the conventional wisdom becomes, in order to be successful, you have to have a retro ballpark. SPEAKER_03: In the 25 years since Camden opened, there have been 20 new stadiums built. And there's not a concrete donut in the bunch. And just like Camden Yards, most of these new stadiums have been built close to city centers. And all but one of them have been paid for, at least in part, with public money. SPEAKER_09: Camden Yards really hit upon the formula, right? SPEAKER_02: This is Neil DeMoss, a journalist who studies stadium economics. SPEAKER_03: Here's something that's supposedly a win-win-win, right? It's a win for the team because they get new revenue. It's a win for the fans because they get a stadium that they love. SPEAKER_02: And it's a win for the city because they get to revitalize a district. SPEAKER_09: But most economists agree that if you want to revitalize a neighborhood, there are plenty of better ways than building a ballpark. DeMoss says that when a new stadium gets built, you'll see some sports bars pop up nearby. But most businesses can't rely on baseball crowds as a customer base. You know, there's 81 games a year. That means there's what, like, you know, 280 days a year when there's nothing going on there? That's an awful lot of non-activity that you have to make up for. SPEAKER_02: There's also the more fundamental question of whether the public should have to pay for privately owned buildings. Mark Lampster says it's tricky. SPEAKER_03: Sports teams occupy this strange space. They're both businesses and public amenities. Sports are really important for cities. They help create an identity. People love them. They bring cities together. SPEAKER_08: So there is some justification for a city supporting even a privately owned team. But Lampster says most cities have much more urgent spending needs than a new baseball stadium, like education. SPEAKER_03: And it's hard to say what level of taxpayer contribution is fair. Especially when it's going straight into the pocket of very, very, very wealthy individuals. SPEAKER_09: But these difficult questions haven't stopped the retro ballpark building boom. Across the country, baseball teams have done everything they can to follow the Camden template, right down to hiring the same architecture firm, HOK Sport, which has since spun off into its own independent firm called Populous. SPEAKER_08: It's almost a law that the new ballpark is by Populous. And like Camden, most of the new Populous stadiums are small, baseball-only ballparks with comfortable seats and fancy food options. SPEAKER_03: And aesthetically, they're designed to look like the ballparks from the early 1900s. SPEAKER_08: The palette of Camden Yards has become a cliche of ballpark design. That is the brick, the green painted iron, the green seats, the typography. It is all of a piece. And it became widely adopted all across the country. SPEAKER_03: Each of these new parks had an asymmetrical playing field. And like with Baltimore, their dimensions were often determined by the surrounding cityscape. In San Diego's Petco Park, the historic Western Metal Supply Company building dictates the length of the left field line. SPEAKER_09: Instead of building a foul pole, the team just painted a yellow stripe down the corner of the warehouse. SPEAKER_03: AT&T Park in San Francisco is squeezed right up against the San Francisco Bay. The right field line goes all the way to the water, giving fans a spectacular view and creating a unique local drama. Splashdown home runs. When someone hits a ball into the bay, a flotilla of kayakers descend on the souvenir. SPEAKER_09: But not all the new retro ballparks were so successfully integrated with the urban landscape. Take Citi Field, the new Mets stadium in Queens. It has an asymmetrical shape, but not because it's wedged into a tight urban lot. SPEAKER_03: It's actually set out in the same place that its predecessor Shea Stadium was in the middle of a parking lot. SPEAKER_08: And it has all these idiosyncratic dimensions, but there's really no reason for its idiosyncrasy. It's not driven by any particular constraint of the area around it. It's entirely artificial. SPEAKER_03: When you're at Citi Field, Mark Lampster says you can feel how hard the architects worked to manufacture a sense of history and authenticity. He says that everyone in the league has been so focused on building these old-fashioned idiosyncratic ballparks like Camden, that they've actually created a new architectural orthodoxy. They all have exactly the same DNA. They're all designed by the same firm. SPEAKER_08: They all kind of look the same, except the whole idea is that each one is idiosyncratic and individual. It's a tall tale. SPEAKER_03: Despite his critiques, Mark Lampster says there's no denying that the post-Camden ballparks are better places to watch baseball than the old concrete behemoths. Even Citi Field in New York, the stadium Lampster accused of trying a little too hard, is still way nicer than its predecessor, Shea Stadium. SPEAKER_09: Can you describe Shea Stadium? SPEAKER_03: Can I describe Shea Stadium? Yes, I can describe Shea Stadium. Think of a toilet. Put seats in it. That's Shea Stadium. SPEAKER_08: Was it a nice place to watch a game? No. Is the new place a nice place to watch the game? Absolutely. It's a much, much nicer place to watch a game. It's a really great place to watch a game. SPEAKER_03: And being a nice place to watch a game is important for baseball. In recent decades, sports television ratings have started to slide, but attendance numbers are strong. And these ballparks are part of the reason why, because they're fun places to go. People enjoy sitting there watching a game. SPEAKER_03: And for me, enjoying the game has always had a bit of nostalgia to it. I don't even follow baseball that closely, but I'll go eat a hot dog and listen to the organ music, because it feels like a fun tradition. More than any other sport, baseball is about its own past and plays to its nostalgic history. SPEAKER_09: That obsession with history drove the retro ballpark revolution. But as an architecture critic, Mark Lampster is ready for some team out there to embrace the future. Why were we looking back nostalgically when we designed these ballparks instead of looking towards new materials and new ways of building and new architecture? 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